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welcome back to "cnn newsroom." i'm brooke baldwin. i want to begin with something we've been talking about for quite a while and it continues to percolate. that being the heat. it is gripping so much of the southern u.s. in just two states, texas and oklahoma, the heat is to blame for 22 deaths, 22. and it is just the 3rd of august. temperatures again today reaching well into the triple digits. in fact, case in point, plano, texas, excessive heat is blamed for the death of a popular high school football coach who collapsed two hours into the team's first practice of the season. the heat index apparently soaring above 100 degrees.
>> we were on a second short break and heading to the fieldhouse. he collapsed outside the fieldhouse. >> the heat proving to be fatal in georgia. two high school football players collapsed while out practicings under the sun and the heat. they both later died. if you have kids who say, mom, dad, the coach says i have to practice, i have to be out there, maybe in full pads, i want you to listen to the father of one of those high school players who just passed away. >> when your body tells you that you're tired, you need to tell somebody, the kids need to tell their coaches or whoever, there's something wrong with me, i need a break. >> also this, the heat is warping train tracks. yes, in missouri, in oklahoma, in texas, inspectors are hitting the rails every afternoon. checking and fixing what day
ca they call sun kinked that could cause trains to derail. i want to turn your attention to the town of robert lee, texas, the water source is about to run try. it's a towny town there in west texas. look at the cracks there. john jacobs is the mayor of robert lee. and he is on the phone with me. mr. mayor, thank you for calling in. i've got chad myers here, been watching the weather as well. i want him to chime in on this. this is stunning, this number. your town is down to less than 1% of its water supply. 99% of your water source is gone. sounds like you don't have much more than a mud puddle left. >> well, that's true, ma'am, it's getting pretty low. there's still some in the neighborhood of 353 acre feet out there. we've still got some water.
>> i know it is your birthday, 65 years young. have you ever seen anything like this? >> no, ma'am, not with this much heat, wind and lack of rain. this is a first for me. >> let me explain. i know you know this very well. just west of your town is a reservoir that serves right around 1,000 people in your town. you are the only town still using this reservoir. if the rains don't come, mayor, then what? how do you get water? >> we're in the process of negotiating and building a pipeline to coke county sister city bront which is 12 miles to the east of us. we hope to get into in the ground before the lake runs completely dry. >> mr. mayor, it's chad. i want to talk to you about people that are using well
water. what are they finding? are their wells drying up? is that water just becoming undrinkable? >> water in our neck of the woods is still -- some of the wells are losing static height. but as far as i know, none have actually turned bad. of course, west texas, we don't have any such thing as good groundwater. but a lot of them are still -- they're using it and it's just their volume's falling off. >> any of your areas there have any fracking going on there? we're worried about that, obviously people all around the world worry about that, getting into groundwater. any of that an issue for you? >> locally in our issue there is some fracking going on, but very little. and to my knowledge, it's not affecting our water tables. >> mayor jacobs, are you having to tell families, hey, you can only use so much water per day,
i don't know, reuse bath water? have you had to get torationi rg yet? >> we're at stage 3, no outdoor water usage at all. we've asked people to be very conservative. we've not had to put a system of only so much water on people yet. >> my final question to you is, can you put this into perspective. none of us are dealing with this issue, 1% of water. put it in perspective for us. just what is it like to live like this? >> well, it's certainly not pleasurable, for sure. we're all -- like our green back yards, to go out back and barbecue and watch the kids play. what's there is definitely brown, breaking off as you step. you can't sit and take a good 15, 20-minute shower.
you take a three-minute shower. it's a life change for everybody. but everybody is adjusting and we're going to get through this. >> john jacobs, enjoy your birthday cake. make that wish for the rain to come, as i'm sure you will. mr. mayor, thank you so much. chad myers, also talking about oklahoma, i know the oklahoma city school system spokesperson has been talking about these buses, so they have 260 different buses, many of which don't actually have air conditioning. so they're putting ice chests on the buses just to try to keep them cool. >> and they just went -- some of the schools, unbelievable, just this year went to almost a year-round school. so in years past, kids would not be going to school yet. but when the year-round program they have, now kids are in school august 1st, wow. can you imagine being in there -- and it's going to be 113 in parts of oklahoma city proper today, sitting in a room,
air conditioner is half working. >> 94 classrooms without air conditioning. >> it's brutal. >> what else do you have? >> i have 102 degrees in abilene, texas. and tropical storm emily that could be a hurricane in south florida. would love to shift that over to texas. but it's not going to be. it's not here yet. but there could be something coming for south florida in the hurricane problem all the way up the east coast, too, for this coming weekend. we'll keep you advised. >> we're talking about that a little later. chad, thank you so much for that. one of our correspondents is in dallas, texas. he was tweeting and said when he woke up this morning at 4:45, it was already a whopping 91 degrees. so we sent him out in it to find out how hot it go in texas and oklahoma. >> reporter: in texas, swarms of grasshoppers are invading dried-out grass fields. in oklahoma, there's barely enough hay to feed herds of cattle.
across these crusty plains, lakes are evaporating, children hibernate, playgrounds are silent. triple-digit temperatures have baked texas and oklahoma for more than a month. the summer of 2011 is a beatdown of epic proportions. if that sounds dramatic, this cnn ireporter knows these are desperate times. >> we are sweltering and we are just asking for some relief here. >> reporter: this weekend dallas-ft. worth could break its all-time high temperature of 113 degrees. in oklahoma, there have been 11 heat-related deaths. all but six of texas's 254 counties are under a burn ban. the heat and dryness continue spawning wildfires like this large blaze in tulstulsa, oklah. in san angelo, texas, dry conditions have turned this lake
red. even strong decades-old trees are withering under the scorching heat. leaves are turning brown. >> if it loses all its leaves and it goes totally brown, it's done. >> reporter: texas electricity regulators are issuing emergency warnings urging people to conserve power. but who needs to power an oven when you have a sizzling car. these tyler, texas, tv reporters baked chocolate chip cookies in just over three hours, apparently good enough to eat. but in miserable times like these, you need to be able call a timeless super hero, the ice cream man. he says the calls for his truck are urgent. >> they used to see, i don't know, a week, two weeks. but today and the day before yesterday, they said, i want it today. >> much cooler with this. >> i'm not ashamed. >> reporter: the manager of this dallas trucking company says the
ice cream man saved the day. >> with the heat the way it's been, our president called and said, maybe we ought to try and do something for some employees. maybe you ought to get ahold of an ice cream truck, feed them as much ice cream as they want. >> that's the guy who's making a little money in this economy. hard to believe, but a couple of months ago, he was the leader of egypt. now, hosni mubarak is on trial on a hospital bed inside this cage. coming up next, the images coming out of cairo today. you have to stick around to see to believe. plus this -- >> that's why i'm here. i'm calling them back. come back to washington, leave your vacations, just for a couple of hours, come back, congress. >> congress may have averted a disaster with the debt, but they have created another one in the process, the faa forced into a partial shutdown and thousands
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also his sons? >> reporter: it's standarding operating procedure here, courtroom protocol for any defendant to be wearing that white uniform and to be in that cage. it's an iron and mesh cage. and in courtrooms across egypt, trials, when there are criminal defendants, they go into these cages to be separated from the on look li onlookers in those courtrooms. this was a complete shock to the people we spoke to today outside the venue where this trial was being held. the people that came out today, the anti-mubarak faction, looking forward to seeing the former president inside this cage, just couldn't get their minds around the fact that he was actually there. so many people believed the trial would be delayed or that mubarak would not be transferred from his hospital bed, that his defense attorneys would come up with some ploy to keep him from going to that courtroom, to see this person, hosni mubarak, who
led this country with an hirn fist, who ruled as a dictator for 30 years, as a criminal defendant in that courtroom shocked the people we spoke with. they were riveted to a big screen outside the courtroom today watching those proceedings and just trying to process the fact that it was actually going on. >> mohammed, could you be more specific. how was it being received, beyond shock, were people embracing the images? were they embarrassed? did they at all feel sympathy for this man? >> reporter: passions were really running high. several times throughout the day outside this venue, there were clashes. there were supporters of the presidents there, anti-mubarak factions there. families of those who were killed during the protests were there. rocks were thrown, riot police were deployed.
there was a lot of emotion, a lot of intensity. but when you would be focusing back on the trial and when the trial would be on that big screen outside, people would be riveted to that screen and watching it. today we didn't see protests throughout the see. tahrir square, which had been the epicenter of the revolution here, has been cleared out. it was emptied by the military a couple of days ago. no more tent sittings, no more sit-ins, there was a real fear today by the security apparatus here that spontaneous demonstrations would erupt, that could turn violent. the police, the military didn't want to see that happen. but outside that courtroom today, a lot of emotion. i spoke to families of victims, of martyrs of the revolution, they're called, that said they wanted to see mubarak killed for this, that they wanted blood for blood. they wanted to avenge the blood of the martyrs. these were families of the people killed during the revolution. people feeling very intense
feelings and reacting to what they were seeing and emotions really running high outside that courtroom today. >> no big surprise considering the emotions that ran high months ago. procedurally, i know there are more proceedings, court proceedings this week. but mubarak won't actually be back in court until later this month. why is that? >> reporter: that's right. today we saw several defendants, not just hosni mubarak and his two sons. also the former interior minister. the former interior minister, his lawyer at one point asked that his case be separated from the rest of the defendants. apparently that's what happened. what we're going to see tomorrow is the case against the former interior minister and former associates of his proceed. later in the month, the trial of hosni mubarak picks up again. it's a procedural matter. the judge wanting to separate these cases, granting the request of the lawyer of the former interior minister here. a lot of people when that announcement was made, they were disappointed because they wanted to see mubarak's trial proceed right away. they didn't want any kind of
delay. but at the end of the day, they were happy it wasn't delayed any further. they want to see this trial proceed as quickly as probable. >> cages used as standard operating procedure for defendants in egypt, i had no idea. mohammed, thank you so much. coming up next, to another courtroom, jurors in the warn jeffs sexual assault trial are hearing disturbing audio recordings, recordings of the polygamous leader's alleged sexual encounters with his female followers, one of whom is a minor. has the evidence been enough to convince them? moments ago, the prosecution rested its case. cnn's gary tuchman has been inside the courtroom. he joins me next. plus live pictures from the united nations at this hour where the security council has just issued harsh words on syria and the al assad regime. we'll check in with cnn's richard roth next. then they gave us an iihs top safety pick and you... well, you gave us your approval. so we thought, why not give a little back.
the child sex abuse trial of polygamous leader warren jeffs enters an even more bizarre phase. prosecutors rested their case about an hour ago. and jeffs has been acting as his own attorney seasoned a set to present his attorney. he objected several times yesterday as the court listened to these audiotypes, the prosecutors contend jeffs telling these young brides how to please him sexually. gary tuchman has been listening to this inside the courtroom there in san angelo, texas. how did prosecutors wrap up their case? >> reporter: the most damning evidence was an audiotape of
warren jeffs, this 50-year-old man, allegedly having sex with a girl who was 12 years old. it was dramatic because we listened to it. a juror was crying. for example, warren jeffs on the tape, you could hear them breathing heavily. it was very disturbing listening to it. you hear this little girl voice talking. this is one of his celestial wives he was married to. warren jeffs said, does that feel good? she says, very good. it was pitiful, hard to listen to. and warren jeffs doesn't deny that he had sex with children, at least not yet. what he is saying is this violates his religious freedom. but in the united states of america, no matter your religion, you're not allowed to have sex with children. that's what it comes down to. >> gary, to point out another line, you mentioned the audio recording with the 12-year-old, yesterday it was 14, another one of these zest yal brides.
at one point you hear him saying, take off your clothes, do it right now, you hear her crying and then he says, just don't think about the pain, you're going to heaven. you mentioned a juror today wipingaway tears. what was the message from the state today? >> reporter: it was very deflect hearing that, today's tape was shorter. we didn't know the people who were involved, you knew it was children. this 12-year-old girl has been described by witnesses as having red hair and freckles. and the question comes up, why aren't these victims testifying? they're either too scared, don't want to testify or both because they all are still in the flds. they've been subpoenaed but haven't shown up to testify. that's why they're using the audio recordings.
the question, will warren jeffs call any witnesses on his own behalf? he's indicated he might. we still don't know the answer to that. >> gary tuchman, i know you want to get back in the courtroom. gary, thank you so much. tomorrow morning in orlando, casey anthony will be in a courtroom. we have just learned according to the communication director down there that she will be back sometime between 7:00 and 10:00 in the morning. the judge said she had to be back to serve her probation sentence for the check fraud case. so casey anthony, back in orlando tomorrow morning. now more news, just in to us here at cnn, richard roth is standing by with a stern warning, some stern words from the united nations security council when it comes to syria. richard, what have they said? >> reporter: the united nations security council is condemning the actions in syria where hundreds have been killed.
it's expressing regret the syrian authorities are not lived up to their promises and protected their own people. the action by the security council is the first time really in two months that the security council has taken action involving syria. there's been a bit of a libya hangover, you could say, because there was so much anger by russia and china after quick nato action after the libya events that they've been gunshy and felt the council went too far. will it change the actions of the syrian regime? that's unlikely. but this is sometimes how the u.n. and the council works. they get on paper the objections of the world, in a sense. and they want the secretary general to report back in seven days with an update. many times when the u.n., if it ever moves against one of its own, it's this gradual process, no matter the death toll on the ground. >> you're telling me the two months of silence is because of this libya hangover and they just didn't want to speak out on syria until now?
>> reporter: it's a big part of it. some countries such as china, russia, india, brazil, south africa, council members, they felt that the resolution did not call for such robust military action, though the resolution made clear if libya didn't cooperate, there would be consequences. there are different views on the world scene about the role of the u.n. russia and china think it should not be getting involved in, quote, countries' internal affairs, no matter how gruesome or graphic government is treating its own people. the united states disagrees rather firmly. it's all how you want to use the u.n. but you need unanimous support. and you need all 15 countries. and lebanon, who is dominated by its neighbor, syria, was very fearful. they had to be convinced in the end even though they made a statement afterward saying, we didn't really want this statement. >> but all 15 ultimately agreed. richard roth, thank you so much. news there from the united nations. still ahead here, new
details emerging about that crucial moment in the raid that killed osama bin laden. we're going to tell you about the split-second decision that changed the course of history. also later, have you had heard peter parker's out? brand-new details on the spider-man. and alison kosik has a check of your stocks and perhaps finally a positive sign? mine was earned over the south pacific in 1943. vietnam, 1967. i got mine in iraq, 2003. u.s.a.a. auto insurance
let's talk jobs here. more bad news today on the unemployment front. job recovery slowed for the third month in a row. more than 66,000 planned job cuts were announced in july. that is up a whopping 60% from june and a 16-month high. also adp says private sector employer only added 14,000 jobs. some 30,000 fewer than the month before. disturbing video here surfacing of one of jaycee dugard's kidnappers luring another little girl into a van
and taping her doing splits. the video comes from the d.a. who put the garrido's in prison. during the police interrogation, nance garrido, his wife, admitted on making the tapes several occasion for his husband's viewing pleasure. haiti is bracing for a possible direct hit by emily. the tropical storm brought high winds, heavy rain and minor flooding to puerto rico. now it is aiming straight for the dominican republic and haiti. more than 500,000 haitians still living in temporary shelters after losing their homes in the earthquake of february 2010. emily could skirt florida's east coast by the weekend. up-and-down day for stocks. fears of another recession drove stocks into an early slump but they have been clawing their way back. alison kosik live at the new york stock exchange.
alison, finally some numbers in the green. >> reporter: exactly. we had a little whiplash in between. we're in the green, as you said, the dow up ten points. the nasdaq better by 21. you know what brought stocks back? the white house came out and said, it doesn't believe the u.s. economy is in danger of a double-dip recession, though it acknowledges there are challenges to the recovery. but don't tell investors that. they're still on edge, the dow still trading below that 12,000 mark, on reasons you can pick your poison. what's worrying them? first of all, moody's said the u.s. can keep its aaa credit rating for now. but it lowered its outlook on the u.s. debt to negative. in effect, it put the u.s. on probation. so it left the possibility for a downgrade if lawmakers don't keep their promises. that has put investors on edge, not to mention the bad litany of
data we've been getting lately. >> i have more questions on that data. see you in half an hour, alison kosik. if you thought all the bickering in washington was over for a while, here's a sobering reminder that it is not. thousands of federal faa employees are suddenly out of work. and the government is going to be out a cool $1 billion. why? because democrats and republicans can't agree on much of anything. up next, the fight that is leaving the fate of the faa up in the air. le. hey ! chocolate, vanilla or strawberry ? chocolate ! chocolate it is ! yeah, but i'm new, too. umm... he's new... er... than you. even kids know it's wrong to treat new friends better than old friends. at ally bank, we treat all our customers fairly, with no teaser rates and no minimum deposit to open. it's just the right thing to do.
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in-depth today, thousands of workers, folks with good jobs, they can't go to work, thus they cannot get paid. maybe can't even pay their own bills because congress took off on its long-delayed summer vacation without wrapping up one major piece of business, a bill to fund the faa, federal aviation administration. air traffic controllers still
are being paid, thank goodness for that. but not the folks hired on dozens of federally funded airport projects. the temporarily jobless include tense of thousands of private sector workers, mostly construction workers, and some 4,000 faa inspectors and iffing in -- nothing changes, they're out of work until next month. house republicans passed this funding bill. senate democrats will not accept it and then they took off out of town. democrats bruised by the debt ceiling battle, they are fuming over this. >> i hope the american people wake up. this is their modus operandi. government by crisis that they may get government by hostage taking and government by threat. ted rollins is standing by at chicago's o'hare airport. let's start really simply. it is safe to fly today, correct?
>> reporter: oh, absolutely. tsa folks are hard at work and getting paid. so any member of the traveling public need not worry about safety. everything is fine. it's all the lost revenue that the federal government is losing out on that make people upset and all those construction workers and the 4,000 faa employees sitting at home today and they're not sure when they'll able to get back to work and earning a paycheck. >> i'm hearing the hustle and bustle behind you. that's a good sign. but i wonder whether the folks you talked to there, the folks who are not getting paid, are they blaming washington politics as usual or blaming a certain party in particular? >> reporter: no. they're frustrated with the entire process. let's face it, this is not something that was not scheduled to elapse. everybody knew this was on the table. in fact, they really haven't had a permanent plan in place to fund the faa since 2007. so routinely congress has sort
of band-aided it through whenever it elapsed. we talked to one employee specifically. he thought, maybe i'll be out of work for a day and they'll figure it out before they go on their leave. he said he was shocked. and he's got two kids in school. he didn't plan for this. he is really worried object being out of work for a month-plus. talk about construction workers, this is their time to work, during the summer months, especially in place in the midwest like here in chicago. you lose a month's worth of work you thought you had in the bank, it's very distressing. it's washington's inability to do their job while other people are just trying to do their job. >> trying to do their job. i've read in some cases, having to put the bill on their own personal credit card hoping that congress ultimately reimburses them because we need them to do their jobs. ted rowlands live in chicago,
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multicultural in marvel comics' ultimate universe series, set for all of you comic fans, you know what this parallel universe is where peter parker dies, is replaced by this teenager, this is miles morales. this new teenager here, he is half black, half latino. morales takes over for parker who was killed in a recent issue. but we won't find out how morales ends up with spider-man's powers. axel alonso is the edit editor-in-chief of marvel comics. a biracial spidey, how did this idea to bring about miles morales from a diverse background even come about at marvel? >> we were in the writers' room
talking about a story that would culminate in the death of peter parker and ultimate comic spider-man. and the obvious question when you're considering something like this is, who's going to inherit the tights? marvel's always prided itself on its diversity, reflecting the real world and all its size, shapes and colors. that's when we began to contemplate this notion of a black spider-man. this is miles morales, a nerdy kid from brooklyn who's half black and half hispanic. >> he inherits the tights. did this whole idea come about before we had the first african-american president? did president obama play into this at all or was this prior to him? >> well, certainly that was a factor. our concrete discussion of a black spider-man happened in the months before the election when we realized we would very well be looking at the first african-american president. we didn't pull the trigger on the idea then because we didn't
have the story. we needed the story. and as we were sculpting the death of the spider-man story, we knew we were ready. >> did you get any pushback, any pushback from either marvel within the corporation or even from avid comic book readers who i know some of them are not too thrilled that peter parker will no longer be spider-man, but in terms of a biracial new spidey here, did you get pushback? >> of course, our fans are extremely passion. if they don't like it, we hear that in a minute. we heard that. but the response has been overwhelmingly positive, meaningful. i've had any number of people write and e-mail me saying they're going to be going to the comic store today to pick up their first comic book. i myself am biracial. >> i read about this huge internet campaign, axel, last year about this african-american
actor and writer, donald glover, to play spider-man in the last movie. he was not cast, but did that serve at all as a catalyst for change here? >> the writer of ultimate comic spider-man has had correspondence with donald glover. i believe donald glover is influential in the look of our miles morales character. >> we know morales is in this parallel universe, a lot of fans want to know will he have a love interest like mary jane to peter parker? >> i wouldn't be surprised. morales' parents are still alive and he will interact with them in the book. and he'll interact with a number of characters who were part of peter parker's life. but -- >> i don't know if this is miles more or less' green goblin.
tell us about the villains that spider-man will face? >> there will be new ones as well. i can't give away too much. >> i'm a reporter, i have to ask these questions. because we know spider-man is so, so popular, so many movies, spidey movies. we're trying to help you out and help cast the next movie. who would play a miles morales, who would play spider-man? do we have the tweet? my executive producer, do you know who jesse williams is? he's a biracial actor on "grey's anatomy," she tweeted him. >> i don't. >> here he is. this is jesse williams. if you could think of anyone right now to cast is miles morales, who would be your dream pick? >> i'd have to say out of all due respect to ben, i believe
donald glover would be my pick. but i don't make those decisions. >> axel, alonso, thank you so much for the latest and greatest on spidey. straight ahead, riveting new details on the raid that killed osama bin laden. >> it was all split-second. shoots him one in the chest and once above the left eye. he falls down, steps up and says on the radio -- >> what a brand-new report is revealing, including why a u.s. navy s.e.a.l. grabbed bin laden's wives in a bear hug.
osama bin laden has been dead for three months now and today as we are learning more new details about the daring raid that killed him. cnn's brian todd has that. >> reporter: less than 18 minutes into the 38-minute raid came the crucial moment. navy s.e.a.l.s had fought their way through osama bin laden's compound, killed his cowurrier courier's brother and son. as the s.e.a.l.s reecached the third floor -- the s.e.a.l. instantly sensed that was bin laden. his article in "new yorker" magazine launched new details of the bin laden raid. sourced conversations with special operation officers who had intimate knowledge of the raid. he did not speak directly with
s.e.a.l.s who carried out the mission. he writes that when they rushed down the hall and into that room, two of bin laden's wives had placed themselves between the s.e.a.l.s and bin laden. account of how he had to act into a split second when he encountered bin laden's youngest wife. >> she began to approach the first s.e.a.l. and the concern is that they're wearing suicide explosive vests and he shoots them all in the calf and proceeds to grab amal and the other woman and turn his back to the s.e.a.l.s and pushes them off to the side. if they explode and they blow up, he'll soak up the impact of that blast. >> he knows he'll die in the process. >> pretty much. >> reporter: no suicide vests on the women and then a second
s.e.a.l. moved into the room. is there anything said at that moment? >> nothing said. i asked and asked and asked wondered if there was a dirty harry moment and it was one second. shot bin laden in the chest and shoots him once above the left eye and bin laden falls down sad steps up and says on radio. >> reporter: at that moment back at the white house said to no one in particular, we got him. he spoke with the s.e.a.l.s and thanked them but he writes that president obama never asked which s.e.a.l. actually fired the kill shot and they never volunteered that information. >> brian todd, thank you. coming up that top of the hour, an interview you do not want to miss. why? because i'll be speaking with the woman who has unleashed this possible bombshell in a 40-year-old mystery she says she
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comics. go to my blog, we'll pop that interview up. a lot of you still tweeting me about willie nelson yesterday. wolf blitzer with our cnn equals politics update here. wolf, let's begin with a big day for the president tomorrow. the big a-0. . >> he is going to be 50 years old. you really can see he's aged over the past 2 1/2, 3 years as president of the united states. have you seen, brooke, the pictures of him three years ago and the pictures of him now. >> a lot more gray. >> he's under a lot of pressure and working hard and the stress, i've covered a lot of presidents and it really has an impact. they're working day and night. you're working really hard and you've got a lot of responsibility and a lot of authority that you have to deal with and it has an impact. he will celebrate his 50th birthday where else but in chicago tonight with his friends, but a lot of political fund-raising going on. two separate events. a big one for about 1,500 people who will pay a minimum of $50.
and a much smaller dinner, that's the maximum fund-raising $35,800 a ticket for one dinner. some of it goes to his campaign and some of it goes to the democratic party. the president is going to be doing that in between everything else he's doing. he's very deep, you know, in getting himself re-elected. they announced later in august that he'll go on a bus trip across the u.s. and that will be a lot of fun covering that for the reporters who be on the bus with him. let's talk about some other political nuggets while i have you. florida is going to be punished if, if they decide to move up their primary date. you know, all these states, they want to be in the top few to have a real impact on who the republican presidential nominee is going to be. so, he was down in tampa today, that's where the republican convention is going to take place next year and he said i
can appreciate respeckive view points of people here in florida who want to move their calendar date, but doesn't change my responsibility to enforce the rules. which is you lose half your delegates to the convention if they move up their date. that's a pretty rough rule. iowa goes first, new hampshire, south carolina, michigan, they have a real schedule. florida wants to move up. we'll see what happens on that. finally, i'll be talking in "the situation room" with republican senator orrin hatch of utah. as you know, yesterday there was a last-minute compromise deal that two senators jay rockefeller, democrat of west virginia, kay bailee hutchinson of texas they worked out to get over this faa issue. this furloughig of faa workers and potential setback of tens of thousands of workers. the u.s. government could lose a billion dollars over the next five weeks. taxpayers could lose because of this fight over the faa. he blocked that compromise and we'll talk to him and ask him why. a lot of people outraged that
this happened. it shows, underscores one of the problems with congress. so, we'll get into that and a lot more in "the situation room." >> the president said today that is $200 million in losses every week. >> every week and it's five weeks. they've gone into recess until september 7th. that's five weeks. >> that's a lot of money. a lot of money, wolf blitzer. >> as they used to say, $1 billion. >> $1 billion, indeed. wolf, we'll see you later this hour with another preview. top of the hour, take a look at this. at this very minute the numbers are settling on wall street and nerves are starting to rise. we're all over that. plus, who is really getting the squeeze between soldiers and students as the dirt is finally settling over this debate. i'm brooke baldwin, the news is now. the secret plan is a year in the making, but now the feds are revealing a new strategy to
track down terrorists living in america. so, how do you catch a lone w f wolf? they don't know it yet, but in 12 weeks lawmakers will hold an extraordinary amount of power. democrats and republicans decides what gets cut and what gets spared. would you like a seat if you could have one on the six-member committee? it could become a hot one. plus, when this year began hosni mubarak ruled with an iron fist, but today he watched his own trial from an iron cage. and shocking new revelations from the woman who held jaycee dugard captive for 18 years. >> are ewwe talking less than 2 or more than 20? >> what nancy garido did to feet her husband's sick fantasies.
sunny hostin is on the case. welcome back to hour two. i'm brooke baldwin. the debt dooel is done, but if you thought the u.s. dodged a bullet, not so fast. economists are ringing alarm bells warning the u.s. could fall into a new recession even though the debt ceiling crisis is behind us and those spooked investigators. let's go to my colleague alison kosik at the new york stock e change. i know the numbers are settling right now and what are they and what has investors so worried? >> i have good news. the dow snapping an eight-session losing streak ending in the green up 29 points. all the major averages ending in the green. investors, brooke, still have big concerns about how this economic recovery is going whether it's stalling or something worse. i'm hearing talk about that r-word again. recession. a reading earlier today showing the service sector. that's where 80% of americans get their paychecks that weakened in july and joins this
long list of other down beat reports we're getting lately. everything from manufacturing to consumer spending and then, of course, throw on the worries of a possible ratings downgrade. sure, moody's had said, you know what, the u.s. can keep its aaa credit rating for now, but it lowered its outlook to negative. so, it essentially means we're on probation and leave it leaves a door open for a downgrade. >> so, we're on probation. so, there could be a possibility of a u.s. credit down grade down the road? what does that mean for you and me and people watching? >> well, it wouldn't be something that happens quickly. so, even if rates do rise, it's important to know you won't get socked with a rate hike overnight. that's thanks to those new credit rules that went into effect last year. your credit card provider has to give you a 45-day heads up. you're not looking at your bill next week and facing a huge interest rate hike all of a sudden.
any rate increase only applies to future purchases you'd make, not your existing balance. as for mortgage rates, if you have a fixed rate loan, it won't change. but, keep in mind, we have not been downgraded, although some are expecting or saying that they expect it to happen. we, of course, will have to wait and see. brooke? >> alison, thank you so much. from new york to washington we go because the bruising battle over the debt ceiling could soon blow back on the pentagon. if you heard by now, if congress cannot agree on spending cuts, then automatic cuts could hit the defense department. cuts that could total more than $700 billion. let's go to barbara starr standing by for me at the pentagon. barbara, did the folks at the pentagon see this coming ahead of time or were they just taken surprise at the level of the cuts they could be facing? >> well, you know, brook we have come out of a briefing about all of this and it's half and half at the moment. the initial $350 billion cut
that they had expected doesn't face them that much. a lot of pain involved, but they think they can make it. what they are worried about here is the possibility of an additional, up to $500 billion cut. that's if this whole thing that washington's now calling. if congress can't agree, there's this automatic trigger. $500 billion in cuts across the board. officials are very anxious about the whole thing. it could lead to civilians being fired and military people leading to what they have forced separation. basically being booted out of the military so they can save that money. they don't want to upset people and they don't want to concern them, but they are so concerned that they are publicly saying that they assume, maybe they hope, congress will consider entitlement cuts and tax hikes before they get to more cuts in military spending. brooke? >> barbara, let's say, you
mention the $500 billion would come if the trigger mechanism is, in fact, enacted. if that happens and if they have to make those kind of cuts, does the pentagon have any kind ofioid how they find ten years of savings totaling all these hundreds of billions of dollars? >> that's the problem. they will try to do some of it, perhaps, by downsizing and making a smaller military force but the big chunk of savings can only come through cutting major weapon systems, modernization and advance technology and cutting it at a very time when the pentagon thinks they may need it the most. in the coming years, u.s. troops may well be out of iraq and may be getting out of afghanistan, but they still need to spend a lot of money modernizing the force after that ten years of war and there's going to be a question of whether they could even afford to do it, brooke. >> what about recruits. a question would be, could we begin promising less to them in terms of long-term benefits and, if so, how do we get folks to
volunteer for the armed forces? >> it's remarkable, isn't it? just a few days ago there was actual discussion about no guarantee that military personnel would be paid if the government went into default. a few months before that, no guarantee that military personnel would be paid if the government had to shut down in a fiscal crisis. so, twice in just a few months. the american military facing, i think, truly unprecedented circumstances in the last several hundred years, at least, that their own leaders cannot any more guarantee them a paycheck. that discussion on the table is really fairly remarkable. and that is going to be something, i think, a lot of young people may have in mind. they still, those who want to join the volunteer force will. but maybe they'll join it a little differently with a little more realism about washington politics these days. >> eyes wide open, i suppose. final question, if these cuts should ever take hold, would we see america's global military reach start to shrink?
>> oh, i think that's absolutely a given. you know, even defense secretary gates before he left several weeks ago started talking about the fact that you just couldn't do it all any more. that, you know, ten years before his belief had taught america a lesson about getting into large land wars that are going to last forever. osama bin laden may be dead, al qaeda may be set back on its heels, but you only have to look around the world these days. yemen, somalia, north korea, the chinese rising threat in the pacific. plenty of uncertainty and plenty of anxiety out there at a time when there are serious questions on just what you said. how much can the u.s. military really take on? >> this is eye opening stuff from you, barbara stuff. thank you so much at the pentagon. >> sure. cnn has learned who peeked the fbi's interest in its only unsolved hijacking case. the only unsolved case here. i'll speak to that very person.
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he demanded and got, i should say, $200,000 of ransom. and now 40 years after he parachuted into folkler history. made a movie after this guy, cooper could soon be identified. marla cooper joining me now by phone from oklahoma city. marla, let me get this straight. you say d.b. cooper was actually l.d. cooper who was your uncle. >> he was my uncle, yes. >> why do you believe that? >> well, as i stated in the interview yesterday, i saw my uncle plotting a scheme. i was with them while they were plotting it. i didn't really know what was going on. they were teasing me. i was a little girl and afterwards on thanksgiving day i saw them return and i heard them discussing what they had done with my father and i have very vivid memories of it that have surfaced in the last, well, they
began surfacing two years ago and just kind of came back in a flood and, so, i'm certain of it because of my memories. >> let's be more specific, if we can, with regard to your memories. who, so, it was before this hijacking happened you say you saw your uncle and who else plotting and what were they plotting? >> it was my other uncle who was with him. another uncle was, they were visiting my grandmother's house, it was thanksgiving time and our family had gathered. i believe that both of my uncles were living with my grandmother at the time and they were, you know, drinking a lot and they were telling me, you know, that they were going to go turkey hunting and putting together a duck blind that i had never seen that i had never seen stashed in my grandmother's garage.
then they were laughing about it and -- >> did you see him afterwards? >> yes, i did. i saw him thanksgiving day. as i told the reporters yesterday that he and my other uncle came back very early on thanksgiving morning and my uncle l.d. was wounded. he had blood on his shirt. he was banged up. he was really in bad shape and i was traumatized. you know, it was frightening to see my uncle in that state and that left a really vivid memory of mine and then afterwards my father sat me down and he swore me to secrecy. he explained that what my uncles had done could mean death and he said, marla, you can never speak of this. i literally have blocked the memory of it until a couple years ago when my mother mention
it at her birthday party and i, i read about the story. my father had mentioned it to me several years ago and as i read it i started having flashbacks of that time. for a while, i thought i was just imagining it. these are real memories. >> because that's an obvious question for people sitting here and listening to you and thinking, gosh, this was 40 years ago. then you were 8. so, you're saying you blocked the memory and it never actually really came back to you until recently and that's why you're coming forward now and talking with the fbip. >> actually, it was two years ago that i initially contacted the fbi. it was several months later before they before any action was taken. >> i know, well let me just jump in and say we have been in touch with the fbi and our correspondent out in seattle has been talking to the fbi and, of course, they won't comment in any ongoing investigation. but we do know that sources close to this investigation have
told us here at cnn that it was your tip about your uncle that reinvigorated the fbi's investigation here. when did you first reach out and tip off the fbi? >> well, it was via a friend of mine and another friend of his who were fairly high-ranking law enforcement officers who had, one was near retirement and the other one was retired and they built case file and they investigated. they were thoroughly convinced that i was telling the truth and they went forward to the seattle borough with that case file. and they, the bureau, of course, there are far more important matters to be investigated by the fbi. and it took a while for them to communicate with me. but that happened in july of last year. and i have been told by the fbi agents that i've been interviewed by the, from day one, including the proligrapher
who i had about a five-hour interview with last january that from the beginning they did believe me. which i think that that carries a lot of weight. but they can't comment about it. >> no, i understand that. but i also do know that, you know, through the years and there have been 40 years here since this still unsolved hijacking happened. all these people came forward saying d.b. cooper was my uncle, my husband, my father. if i may, the cynic in me wants to say, why should we believe you? >> well, there are collaborating circumstances and testimonials of other people. i didn't see my uncle after 1972. but he went on to remarry. he had a new family. he had two children. and this has all been uncovered by the fbi. >> where did he live? >> i'm not at liberty to say that. >> when did he pass away? >> it's my understanding that he passed away in 1999.
>> so the last time you saw your uncle was 1972? >> it was about christmas of 1972. >> okay. >> he gave my mother the guitar strap -- >> yes, i wanted to ask you about that. >> gave the fbi this guitar strap for fingerprint testing. >> it's a 40-year-old guitar strap and it's been handled over the years and they said they couldn't lift any prints from it, is what they told me. but he had spent the year between thanksgiving and several months. i know that he was in the v.a. hospital being treated for his injuries. i believe that he was suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder not only from the jump but as a veteran from the korean war. he was never the same after
being in the war. and that affected his decisionmaking. >> but he lived a public life. he wasn't living in hiding? >> i don't know that it was public. he wasn't -- i searched for him on many occasions. once the internet was available, i was curious about him and only one of his brothers, the brother who assisted him in the hijacking had any contact with him after, after christmas of 1972. he missed my grandmother's funeral that happened, i believe it was about 1975. he just vanished from the life that he had known before. >> i know that you can't comment specifically on this fbi investigation. i know the fbi can't either. can you give me a timeline when they may know definitively based upon evidence that they have and you provided if, in fact, this
man, was your uncle d.b. cooper? >> they may never be able to prove it, brooke. >> really. >> in order to prove it they have to place him on the plane. he has been gone since 1999. to find a fingerprint of his that's still in existence would be really hard to do. the fbi told me that there were no fingerprints as part of his military record. he had been arrested once for some minor, i don't know what it was he had been arrested for at some point a long time ago and there were no fingerprints with that. and his wife, his widow has something of his, possibly his letter working tools because he was pretty -- >> a coligrapher. >> he crafted many things. maybe his leather-working tools are there and i know the fbi is going back to his widow to see
if there's anything that has a fingerprint that they could -- >> have you talked to his widow? do you know her? >> no, i never met her. i never met her and i informed the fbi that i intended to speak with when they were at a dead end. >> they may never know definitively if this man is your uncle because, as you said, they have to place him on the plane. fascinating, nonetheless. many, many people know d.b. cooper's story. marla cooper, i thank you so much for all your time for calling in. let us know what happens. >> thank you, brooke. bye-bye. just ahead, scores of people around the world charged in a major child pornography bust. attorney general eric holder says there were rules for membership in this sick club and
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let's take you back to washington and go to the latest news fresh off the political ticker. lisa d., to you. >> hey, what's up, brooke. let's start with the president. obviously, empty here at the capital and august when washington gets out of town, everybody gets out of town. the president is going on a bus tour starting in a week and a half to the midwest. don't have any details yet where
he's going or what he's talking about. i looked it up and exactly four years ago on august 15th and 16th in 2007, that's when this same president was saying he could better unite the country then his rival, which was hillary clinton. this tour focusing more on republicans and not democrats. how about those republicans, though? they're also hitting the public. we have michele bachmann with her third tv ad of her presidential campaign. it's interesting, brooke, she's talking about the national debt and vigorously defending her vote not to raise the debt ceiling. she's serious about the balance budget amendment and in her words she says, i mean it and you can believe it. we can expect this debt debate to be a big part of this presidential campaign. the entire year. and there you see michele bachmann right there. interesting she is speaking in ames, iowa. they've got a pretty big poll coming up that michele bachmann hopes to win resoundediingresou.
many folks may still have headaches or feel politically hungover from the debt debate. we want to tell folks, we have a debt deal cheat sheet that we put up on the political ticker. go to cnn.com and search for debt deal cheat sheet. that's our podcast where we get into what's really going on with, believe it or not, none of the blame game sound bites. check both of those things out. brooke? >> very refreshing, as you are. so empty behind you. i'm sure driving there will be very nice for the next five weeks there. >> great parking spots here. >> thank you so much. now to this image. take a look at this. oh, how the mighty have fallen. hosni mubarak caged and on a stretcher. where the ousted egyptian leader was wheeled into this courtroom. ♪
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announced 72 people are charged in several countries. 52 of them charged in custody here in the u.s. ten more charged abroad. all this following the investigation launched back in 2009 into a message board. members were required to post pictures of children being abused. an australian teenager is recovering at this hour after she spent just about ten hours trapped in her family's home today. police say she was attached to a very elaborate, sophisticated device. they have not confirmed it was a bomb. but as technicians worked to free this, according to australian newspapers the young woman called to report someone breaking in, putting this device on her and then leaving a ransom note. here's an update for you on the death of 11-year-old celina cass, the new hampshire girl whose body was found in the connecticut river over the
weekend. investigators are calling celina's death suspicious. earlier this morning they hauled off a silver pickup truck near the girl's home. not clear who owns this truck. cnn affiliate wbz is reporting sources saying her body was wrapped in a blanket when it was discovered in a river on monday. a year in the making, but the white house revealing its new strategy to fight terror. tackle extremism, including the threat of lone wolves. the details are pretty generic but the report does highlight growing fears that terrorists are targeting americans online. just ahead, congress fails to act with thousands of jobs and billions of dollars hanging in the balance. i'm not talking about the debt ceiling this time. thousands of faa employees, they're not getting paid. construction projects, they're getting put on hold and lawmakers, they're on vacation. wonder if they're flying.
the faa fails to get funding and that leaves thousands of people without jobs and a former leader goes on trial behind bars and sweltering heat bears down on much of the country. ted rowlands let's begin with you at chicago at o'hare airport. congress is on vacation now for a couple weeks without passing this faa funding bill. were these workers here expecting to be out of a job for as long as a month? >> oh, absolutely not. we talked to one faa employee who said, you know, he figured maybe it would take them an extra day or two and they might be out of work for a day, maybe
two days. he was shocked that they actually went on vacation and left for a month, possibly for a month, hopefully they'll come back without tending to this. he and thousands of other people absolutely shocked to be sitting at home today instead of going to work and not collecting a paycheck. >> faa inspectors, a lot of these construction workers on the airport projects, wow, ted wrowlands, thank you very much. chad myers talking about heat. we talked about robert lee texas. 1% of the water supply remaining. >> he was saying you could take a three-minute shower. i was thinking 30 seconds. that's what the lake looks like that they're using to drink out of. it's literally that bad. other towns were actually taking water from there and stopped and thank goodness because that lake is almost gone. 114 degrees right now in ft. smith. that's not heat index. that's just, that's the
temperature in the -- that's an all-time record. ft. smith all the way over to little rock. 114 to 113 and feels like 118 in memphis. >> show me the map. >> it doesn't stop. >> show me these numbers, chad myers. >> it just keeps going. when will the temperature just finally cool off. i am thinking we need a tropical storm or something to break this. ft. smith 114 yesterday. 114 today. now, i expect phoenix to be hot and i expect kansas to be hot. remember, weather service takes the temperature in the shade. it has to be in the shade for the temps to be real. can't just stand out there in the sunshine with a thermometer and hope that is the number. there's little boxes in the shade and that's 110 and little rock for the high today, they broke that. forecast was 110 and they are 113. when you break the record, boy, i tell you what, that is a brutal day. one more thing we want to talk about is emily. it's not over yet. a tropical system south of santa
domingo and right through haiti and port-au-prince for tomorrow and that could cause major flooding and i know it looks like the storm misses the u.s. but let me tell you miami and key west and into the carolinas, you're still in the cone. some computers have it as a 1 100-mile-per-hour storm as it makes a run in florida in three days. don't tune away from that one, brooke. >> texas needs emily. chad, thank you very much. finally here reporter fred is live in cairo where hosni mubarak is in trial and we saw these stunning images of mubarak and his sons in a cage. can you explain why? why were they in the cage and what is the reaction like among egyptians? >> hi, brooke. actually that's standard procedure here in criminal cases in egypt that you have that very heavy black metal cage for the
defendants to be in. really a security precaution for their safety more than anything else in case anyone inside the courtroom tries to attack them. a lot of people angry at hosni mubarak and his two sons. the formner terrier minister here not sort of a standard operating procedure here inside the egyptian judicial system. now, as far as the mood is concerned here, obviously, this is the biggest news of the day by far. a lot of people, i can tell you, were quite shocked to see the way hosni mubarak looked when we brought him in the courtroom. i talked to some of the lawyers in there and they said they were shocked to see him so frail and so week and the one time that he did speak they also said that his voice sounded very week, as well. certainly, this is something that people are talking about. no matter which side of the equation you're on, just this whole demeanor of hosni mubarak is something that many people found quite shocking, brooke.
>> shocking and if they didn't believe it, there he was in that hospital bed, heart problems, right, fred? fred in cairo, thank you so much. and in two weeks time, a dozen lawmakers will hold incredible power. deciding what gets cut and who gets spared. coming up next, find out why the hottest ticket in washington could actually be a seat on the so-called supercommittee and why there's no turning back once they made their decision. don't miss this. let me tell you about a very important phone call i made. when i got my medicare card, i realized i needed an aarp... medicare supplement insurance card, too. medicare is one of the great things about turning 65, but it doesn't cover everything. in fact, it only pays up to 80% of your part b expenses. if you're already on or eligible for medicare, call now to find out how an aarp... medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company,
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ets let's look ahead. get ready to hear more about the super committee. harry reid, house speaker john boehner and house minority leader nancy pelosi each of them each get to pick three lawmakers. three times four, you have 12, 12 people to try to reach this agreement to cut the national debt by $1.5 trillion over the next ten years. it's all part of the debt reduction agreement that the president just signed off on. not that anyone asked him, but we are reading today that senator bill nelson, the oklahoma democrat, has taken himself out of the running. he will not be serving. but just this past monday, perhaps you were watching, i asked member of the senate gang of six whether he would have any interest in sitting on this super committee. here's what he told me. >> i've wondered myself. i honestly don't know the answer to that question whether i would really love the opportunity or not to serve on this committee. >> he wasn't so sure. joining me now from washington political blogger craig
crawford. good to see you. look, a lot of money at stake here. a cool trillion or so, trillion and some change. i have a hard time believing they won't find members of congress wanting to fill this committee, correct? >> one advantage is, a lot of contributions from lobbyists who will be working to their advantage. but, seriously, i think a lot of people are not lining up for it. who wants to do this on their summer vacation, for one thing. a thankless task. probably whatever they come up with nobody will like, even if they come up with it. >> let's talk strategy. so, if you're one of these people in charge as we just mentioned these four men and women in charge of picking this super committee. who do you name? do you name the three biggest hard heads they know or do you like the folks with the word compromise? >> i have seen committees and commissions and very often what happens the leaders pick people to put on the committees who
will not get anything done. they don't want the committee to do anything. they put people on their design and that's putting very partisan people on there. for republicans people who won't need any tax increases of any kind and democrats appointing people who will not agree to any entitlement reforms of any kind. if that happens, then the committee might not get anything done and that's a real possibility that they don't do anything. >> and trigger mechanisms. >> and the automatic cuts that would be triggered are not as real as they look. they wouldn't start until after the next election and be spread out over eight years and entitlement like medicare and social security benefits are xam exempt. so, in other words, even if the committee fails it's all that painful and congress can't change. >> so, let me just get this straight then. so, let's see if the super committee agrees to this great big debt reduction package and let's say congress approves it. so, a future congress could come
in and just unravel the whole thing? is that what i'm hearing? >> oh, yeah. i heard this in the '80s and '90s. reduction over and over again. t they just disappeared. these things are as full of holes as my mom's crochet blankets. the last time i saw a committee like this get anything really done is when congress actually passed what they proposed was going back to 1983 with the social security reforms when they raised payroll taxes to make it solvent. it was a bipartisan deal and it came out of a commission that alan greenspan chaired. >> '83? >> '83. last time i saw anything major like this done. >> the suspense are killing those people very into politics and want to know exactly who these 12 will be. who do you think, when do you
think we'll know who will be seated on the super committee? >> i think ryan will get on there from the republicans who opposed privatizing medicare. i imagine a lot of the heads of the big committees on both the senate and the house will be front and center. >> you think paul ryan is a lock? >> i think that would aggravate the democrats to no end and make it harder to get compromise because he is uncompromising and he is the poster kid on capitol hill for privatizing medicare, which is the most out there ideaive i seen. that will cause friction with democrats. if they each try to appoint some moderates to compromise, you know, even john mccain could be an example of somebody who in the past has worked across the aisle. that will tell us a lot about where it is going. >> craig crawford, thank you very much. >> loved that willie nelson yesterday.
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room." you mentioned senator hatch coming up on the show. >> orrin hatch. he blocked the compromise yesterday that would have kept the faa sort of in business right now and, of course, the faa for all practical purposes out of business. it affects 4,000 workers immediately. tens of thousands of construction workers have now been furloughed for all practicprac practical purposes. if congress stays in recess until after labor day, that could be another five weeks and that could be a billion, $1 billion. so, i'm talking to senator hatch and asking him why he didn't accept that last-minute compromise that could have averted this. the president was pretty out raged when he held a meeting with his cabinet today before heading off for chicago. he was pretty upset about this. a lot of people are outraged. it's crazy to say what 10, 20, $30 million for some small airports out there, rural airports could cost american
taxpayers a billion dollars. brooke, what we could be doing with $1 billion with all sorts of projects and maybe just use that money to reduce the national debt. $1 billion here and $1 billion there, after all, you're talking real money. >> some workers are being asked to use their personal credit cards because they can't get their money right from their bosses. >> hopefully they'll be reimbursed. some of them live paycheck to paycheck and they don't have extra cash to go on flights and spend nights at hotels. it's not an easy situation. >> we'll look forward to your interview then. see you in a few minutes. >> you can tell i'm a little bit upset about this. >> i am, as well. now, this. >> how many are we talking about? you getting the kids in the van and actually doing a face-to-face taping as opposed to out in the park? are we talking less than 20? more than 20? >> speaking of feeling outraged. a wife helping to feed her
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little girl into the van and taping her doing splits. the video was released by the district attorney who helped to put phillip and nancy garrido in prison for a long time. i want you to listen to this exchange. nancy garrido encourages this little girl to do splits. the video is frozen and blurred. this is by the d.a.'s office. listen closely. >> that's it. can you go all the way down? i bet you can go down really easy. yeah, that is easy. let me see you do it. >> during police interrogation nancy garrido reported making tape s likes the one you just heard for her husband's pleasure. here's another one. >> how many instances are we talking about you getting the kids in the van and actually doing a face-to-face taping as opposed to out in the park? are we talking less than 20?
more than 20? >> it's got to be less than 20. >> somewhere between 10 and 20? >> maybe. >> maybe somewhere in there? >> maybe or maybe less. maybe just ten. >> this video is part of a report that is detailing the parole oversight of pillip garrido. sunny, this is disgusting. some of the videos were made two years after jaycee dugard was kidnapped. the huge question is, the d.a., part of the reason he's putting the video out, how could the couple fly under their division radar for so long? >> well, you know, the parole board really botched this entire case up. i mean, there's no question about it. as you mentioned, 162-page report and it outlines dozens of opportunities that parole officers had to catch, you know, these people and to detect
dugard because she was held for 18 years. i think what is fascinating about it is that he had dozens of parole vallations but they never returned him to prison, brooke. he tried while he worked at a nursing home to get co-workers to buy his drugs and positive drugs for a methamphetamine. submitted watered down urine samples and used fake mountain dew to submit, you know, these drug tests. urine samples. really just unbelievable that this was almost a botched effort just wholesale. they messed up at every single turn. what is really fascinating to me is that he had received a 50-year prison sentence, but was released in 11 years. i think that is really one of the problems that the report outlines is that parole boards don't have the authority to keep these offenders, these vicious sexual predators behind bars. that's really, i think, where we need to start in terms of